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What are your thoughts on the current health care debate?

August 18, 2009

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Austin Baragary ( in Tonganoxie) says...

“I believe it's good for our country to have a dialogue over this, because it is so important that we get this right the first time, even if some are conducting themselves in a negative way.”

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Gloria Brimhall ( in Tonganoxie) says...

“I don’t know if it will work, I don’t know if it is the answer, but I think it is worth a try (referring to President Obama’s proposed health care plan).”

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Robin Jones ( in Tonganoxie) says...

I don't pretend to have answers to the health care debate. However, I do have strong feelings about a certain part of it. The government has no business running it. In my opinion, it's just another of my freedoms the Obama administration and congress is trying to take away. People whose voices have been ignored by their senators and representatives for years and are now making those voices heard at public forums are being called ‘angry mobs,’ ‘un-American,’ and other names I can’t mention in print. A recent headline in the Lawrence Journal-World mentioned that these people, who are peacefully protesting what they perceive as their nation being ripped away from them, are “anti-reform.” I don’t know a single person who does not think the health delivery system is broken and needs to be fixed. No one is anti-reform, but there are genuine differences in opinion of how that reform should be accomplished. The administration’s position is that anyone who disagrees with their ideas on how to accomplish it is anti-American or racist. I could not disagree more vehemently.

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Jason Bailey 4 years, 8 months ago on What are your thoughts on the current health care debate?

The contrast between Robin and Gloria couldn't be more stark and is a reflection of the national debate at large. On one hand you have people who are thoughtful and understand that expanding govt would be detrimental to the core fundamentals of our Republic (Robin) and the other you have someone who says, "It's worth a try" as if this were an experiment that we could throw away if it didn't work (Gloria).

What Gloria is obviously failing to consider is that govt does not scrap large entitlement programs such as what is being proposed via the Govt option. They only grow it. Case in point, Medicare, SS, SCHIP, public education, etc. These have been broken for years and most of these are terminally bankrupt yet they continue to expand.

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tryandkeepup 4 years, 8 months ago on What are your thoughts on the current health care debate?

Is Mr. Jones suggesting our government has not been listening to it's citizens? The "people whose voices have been ignored by their senators and representatives for years" have obviously been neglected by the previous eight year long administration.

Mr. Jones comment, "the administration's position is that anyone who disagrees with their ideas on how to accomplish it is anti-American or racist" sound vaguely familiar. Following the 2000 & 2004 elections, anyone disagreeing with the Bush doctrine of preemptive war, "enhanced interrogations," the suspension of habeas corpus, deregulation of the financial industry or warrentless wiretaps and searches was deemed "not patriotic" and "un- American."

Now Mr. Jones says, "there are genuine differences of opinion of how that reform should be accomplished." There were differences of opinion then and now, neither of which is anti-American.

But as Mr. Jones and many other are now finding out.... a shoe on the other foot usually pinches. I

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Jason Bailey 4 years, 7 months ago on What are your thoughts on the current health care debate?

TryandKeepup: Huh? People who were critical of the Bush Administration were deemed as unamerican by whom? I believe you spent too much time through the early part of this decade watching Olbermann or Stewart.

You've offered a red herring to divert the attention and point that Robin made away from healthcare and back to Bush. With libs, everything is Bush's fault.

Your point regarding 8 years of neglect of the Bush admin not listening to the people makes me scratch my head. Were you awake in Civics during High School? The Dems controlled Congress for most of his Presidency and they did nothing to reign in his policies. They could have cut funding for the military actions in Iraq but did not. They could have held hearings and passed legislation to address the enhanced interrogations but did not. They also were the prime reason for the mortgage industry meltdown since they chaired committees that were forcing large lenders to make X percentage of subprime loans to help out disadvantaged folks -- folks who couldn't afford those loans and thus defaulted. That was the snowball that started rolling down the mountain and created the avalanche -- this from someone who worked in the mortgage industry.

You can point at Bush all you want, but Obama is holding the scepter and wearing the crown now. This is about him not the previous 8 years.

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mymonkey 4 years, 6 months ago on What are your thoughts on the current health care debate?

The party of "no" certainly says yes to insurance companies, execs moving their business overseas and to tax cuts for the wealthy. No interference from the goverment in health? Let's leave the insurance companies in charge to dictate what operation is needed. Eight years of conservatives who gave us the joke prescription bill. They gutted the SEC, OSHA, and increased the rights of employers to screw their employees. I voted for Obama but don't agree with every policy or proposal. But the venom spewed at someone in office less than a year by the dog and pony show "commentators" strikes at the heart of civil discourse.

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