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If you were on the Tonganoxie City Council, how would you have handled the liquor ordinance issue?
I would probably vote to keep the ordinance, even though it conflicts with the former attorney general’s opinion. The mayor has a good point that our local economy can’t afford to allow other liquor stores to be receiving business on Sundays that our liquor stores could be receiving.
One minute on Sunday doesn’t sound too bad at all. I don’t know what minute they would choose. Really, they’ve gotten along without liquor on Sundays for years and years and years.
If I were in that situation, I would try, with any major decision, to not only consider what I felt was the right thing to do, but to also consider the will of the people who elected me to that position.
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12 June 2009
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brendasue58 (Anonymous) says…
I would keep the ordinance, because if they can't buy it here, they will just go elsewhere, and in these hard economic times no city should be considering turning back any income generation. This would also cut hours that people get to work and earn money to spend here in the city, as well as possibly even cut jobs.
13 June 2009
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jason2007 (Anonymous) says…
brendasue58 wrote,
“…in these hard economic times no city should be considering turning back any income generation.”
Now there's a nugget of intellectual power for ya. Such an absolute, constructed in a vacuum, is the reason this nation is flushing down the toilet. Now I'm watching is creep into my beloved home town.
We can generate income via prostitution and gambling just like Las Vegas has done for years. Make it all legal, tax it, an we will be an oasis on the prairie!
Your argument breaks down quickly when the absolute in it is taken to its logical (endless) extreme. If my argument is not palatable to you, then where is the line, ma'am? Who gets to set it? In today's society where moral relativism rules supreme, there will be no line drawn if we don't take a stand somewhere. To me, that line is preventing liquor sales and I commend Mr. Putthoff and Mr. Truesdale for siding with the current ban.
17 June 2009
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straightup (Anonymous) says…
I look at it this way! If you do not want to buy Liquor do not buy it, Do not go to the stores that sell liquor Monday though Sunday. But if you as a person do not drink liquor that is your choice in life and you should not try to push your beliefs on everyone else. I commend Mr. Ward and Mrs. Crook and Mr. Vestal for making that decision.
I see so many Hypocrite in Tonganoxie that protest against something and then they sneak out of town and do the exact thing that they are protesting about.
Some People in this town needs to do what is best for their self's and let the rest of the people of Tonganoxie do what they beleive is best for them !!
17 June 2009
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Trouble (Anonymous) says…
Jason2007
This nation or our beloved town is not flushing down the toilet because the State and our city is selling Liquor on Holidays and Sundays!! By the city passing this ordinance it is not going to bring Prostitution and Gambling to our little city. This town gives away all the sex you want for free… Prostitution would never make a living here in Tonganoxie. Maybe you should tell the Grandma's and Grandpa's to stop getting on the bus that come to our beloved town twice a week to take them to the Gambling house. Let people in this town make there own decisions on what is best for them. Let them drink liquor if they what. This Town does not need Big Brother telling us what we should or should not do!!
25 June 2009
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eicrifle (Anonymous) says…
Government intervention in commerce and free markets NEVER helps anyone, including the government entities that do it – in this case - the Tonganoxie City Council. By outlawing Sunday liquor sales the city is depriving itself of tax revenue, and unjustly obstructing people’s ability to earn a living (the liquor store owners). The logic behind the idea that selling liquor on Sunday somehow threatens to degrade our wholesome Tonganoxie social order is a fallacious argument. If selling liquor in Tonganoxie does that, why then is the threat of this something we shouldn’t fear the other six days of the week? On top of everything else, trying to enforce laws that are in direct opposition to human nature is stupid for as many have pointed out, folks will simply drive to that bastion of morality in Lawrence or Bonner for their Sunday adult beverage needs. Besides, the last thing I need is more government intervention in my life when I already have a wife who is far more effective at moderating my alcohol consumption on Sunday – or any other day for that matter.
2 July 2009
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jason2007 (Anonymous) says…
eicrifle: Ok, I'll bite.
If “trying to enforce laws that are in direct opposition to human nature” is stupid, as you've said, then why even try to enforce any law at all? After all, human nature says that we will naturally gravitate towards “feeling good” if we can find a way to achieve that. Why not legalize drugs? Why not legalize prostitution? Your argument is what is actually fallacious when taken to its logical endpoints.
2 July 2009
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straightup (Anonymous) says…
Jason2007
Do you have a hang-up about feeling good? You can feel good in many ways! With out using drugs and prostitution. You must be very “depressing” to have to be around. You are convinced that the sell of Liquor on Holidays and Sundays are going to bring total destruction to our small city. HA…. People that drink are already Drinking on Sundays and Holidays and our City is still standing and a great place to live. You and people like you are worse then the government. Get a life!!! That will make you feel good!!
19 August 2009
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acc3574 (Anonymous) says…
An “Oasis on the prarie”. That's a great idea! Someone should run with it!