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ELECTION CENTRAL: USD 464 bond issue fails by about 100 shy of 2-to-1 margin

I do care what you say ... and what others think and say. The reason I posted in the first place was to stir the pot a bit to generate thought and ideas. Have to admit that I was a bit shocked at the attacks coming from the losing side. In my mind I respect everyone's right and responsibility to vote as they see fit. I have been voting and dealing with local, state, and national election issues for many years. And one thing I've learned in that time is that if you turn tax dollars over to elected bodies, whether they be legislatures, commisions, councils, boards, or whatever without sufficient oversight, there is a great chance that money will be wasted (at best) and misused (at worst). So I've learned that I want to see the specifics on the ballot, especially dealing with bond issues. I don't know if that is what motivated other voters, but that is what motivated this one. Not looking for a tiff and never was. Was just trying to communicate why I voted no.

April 7, 2011 at 9:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: USD 464 bond issue fails by about 100 shy of 2-to-1 margin

I can't talk for all the no voters. In my case the wording on the ballot gave too much leeway for the school board to shift funds around for pet projects. It's not that I don't trust this administration. It is that I don't trust any elected body that gets too much leeway when it comes to spending tax dollars. I've seen too many boards and commissions abuse their authorities over the years. Several people have said that they had the plan well documented on the district website and they did. So why couldn't the planners put clear and succinct wording on the ballot? We don't vote for what is on the district website. We vote for what is on the ballot.

As for being bitter, I'm not. But after being personally attacked for my vote by oldvet and hurricane23, I decided it was time to clearly and succinctly tell them (whoever he or she is) what I think of their beliefs in my voting. Bottom line is, I don't care what they think.

April 7, 2011 at 4:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: USD 464 bond issue fails by about 100 shy of 2-to-1 margin

You can believe anything you want to. I don't care. See ya at the next election.

April 6, 2011 at 7:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: USD 464 bond issue fails by about 100 shy of 2-to-1 margin

Old Vet, you can be ashamed of me all you want. I don't care! I vote in every election and I vote my conscience. If you don't like that, tough. This is about democracy. I don't criticize anyone who voted yes. That was your choice. For you and others in this town to try to shame and devalue the votes of others is disgusting.

April 6, 2011 at 5:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: School bond issue soundly defeated; Peak, Bixby elected to council; Becker to join school board

Artichokes, you make a great point. Elections have consequences at the community, state and national level and it is a shame that so many people will take the time to howl and complain, but won't take the time to cast a vote on election day. I have voted in every election since I turned 18. If everyone would do the same, we would truly know what the community wants. I stand by my no vote on this one. One thing you can be assured of is that I will cast a vote at the next election, and the next, and the next, etc. Put a clearly defined, reasonable bond issue on the ballot and I will vote for it.

April 6, 2011 at 1:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: USD 464 bond issue fails by about 100 shy of 2-to-1 margin

"make improvements to other district facilities" ... What improvements to what facilities? With that wording they could have decided to add 2000 seats and astroturf to the football stadium and been within their authorities given in the bond issue. Bottom line, too vague. We don't vote for what is on signs or district web pages. We vote for what is on the ballot. And shooting personal attacks at voters is not likely to sway them toward your viewpoint.

April 6, 2011 at 10:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: School bond issue soundly defeated; Peak, Bixby elected to council; Becker to join school board

It is interesting how bitter some posts are when other people don't agree with someone's viewpoint or plan. I voted no for one reason. The wording on the bond issue was too vague and would have given the school board way too much latitude in how to spend our money. The only thing in that bond issue that was specific was the elementary school . Everything else was way too vague and open-ended. It has nothing to do with signs in yards or articles in this paper. Put a bond issue up that is reasonable in scope and tells exactly how the money is to be spent and I will vote yes. I suspect there are many others out there in the same boat. All of us want good schools. What we don't want (and won't accept) is handing our checkbooks over to a school board or any other government body to squander as they see fit.

April 6, 2011 at 8:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: School bond issue soundly defeated; Peak, Bixby elected to council; Becker to join school board

It is interesting how bitter some posts are when other people don't agree with someone's viewpoint or plan. I voted no for one reason. The wording on the bond issue was too vague and would have given the school board way too much latitude in how to spend our money. The only thing in that bond issue that was specific was the elementary school . Everything else was way too vague and open-ended. It has nothing to do with signs in yards or articles in this paper. Put a bond issue up that is reasonable in scope and tells exactly how the money is to be spent and I will vote yes. I suspect there are many others out there in the same boat. All of us want good schools. What we don't want (and won't accept) is handing our checkbooks over to a school board or any other government body to squander as they see fit.

April 6, 2011 at 8:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: USD 464 bond issue fails by about 100 shy of 2-to-1 margin

What was on the district website and what appeared on the ballot was not the same wording. The wording on the ballot was specific about the elementary school, then continued with vague wording that sounded like it would give the school district the authority to spend the money on basicly whatever it wanted to. That's why I voted no.

April 6, 2011 at 8:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

ELECTION CENTRAL: USD 464 bond issue fails by about 100 shy of 2-to-1 margin

This bond issue was just too vaguely worded. We are past the days when taxpayers are going to give blank checks to school boards to spend however they wish. We need a feasible, economically sound plan to get the elementary school done without attaching "nice to have" stuff to it. Write the bond issue with clear objectives and no vague wording and many of us who voted no will vote yes next time.

April 6, 2011 at 7:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal )